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Tuttomenui II
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Posted - 2014.02.14 07:28:00 -
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I would prefer CCP changed the wording and only claimed a license, it is just ridiculous to try to claim ownership. It is over kill and really uncalled for.
Vera Algaert wrote:
Imagine an author writes a book. Before publishing anything he creates two versions of his manuscript that only differ very slightly (maybe he replaces "which" with "that" in a few places, nothing substantial changes). One version he sells to his publisher (whom he transfers the copyright or gives an exclusive license) but he doesn't mention the existence of the other version to the publisher at all. Before the sold version can arrive in stores he self-publishes the second version putting it under CC. The publisher is sol because all both versions contain slight differences and he only owns the copyright/has an exclusive license to one version but not to the other. The author pockets the flat fee he has negotiated and the public rejoices reading the CC version instead of buying anything from the publisher.
This seems to be what VOLT is doing and imho there is no way it can be legal.
The 2 situations are not the same. Usually a publishing company shares the copyright with the Author but holds a larger share of it because the way publishers do things. It is really a different situation.
It is better to liken it to paintings, you can buy an original one of a kind painting but that doesn't mean you also get the copyrights. Unless it is a situation where the art was commissioned and the agreement states that the person commissioning the art controls the copyrights.
Now we can go to Books for a different angle in the area of ghost writing, a ghost writer is commissioned to write a book the person that commissions it hold the copyrights and then they can deal with the publishers themselves. Usually you provide short stories and character ideas and you work along side a ghost writer.
It all really comes down to how the contract is written up.
Read some employment contracts sometime. some of those stipulate that they are entitled to tips that exceed a certain number. They claim ownership of any of your work you do in your spare time at home, usually only works though if the work is related to what you do in the job or what the company you work for does business in. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:58:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:Darius JOHNSON wrote: Explain to me more please I'd like to understand a bit more about CCP's decision-making process and given that I worked there for four years and you're just a bad-posting zilch with no insight whatesoever I'm super curious what I've obviously missed being on the inside while you were doing precisely **** of any value.
I'll let you in on something that's not secret at all you just don't know it because you're stupid... it has nothing to do with resources and everything to do with the fact that the game can't handle what it has now on a large scale. There are certainly creative ways to help mitigate that but at the end of the day ship bling isn't as important as the game actually running you stupid stupid person.
Now I realize that, having done nothing of any consequence ever, you don't have any skin in this game but those of us who have created something aren't going to hand it over to CCP simply because they demand their princely rights, nevermind the fact that they're not entitled to it. Maybe you'll understand at some point in the future if you ever pull yourself out of nothingville and build something other than a list of awful posts on the internet.
- The Honourable Darius "Matlock" JOHNSON esq.
When you said princely rights, the first thing I thought of was Primae Noctis.
My thoughts on the 'Princely rights" was a flash of memory from when I watched 'Brave Heart' and that duke guy wanted to bed his wife.
Oops now ccp has 'Brave Heart' in their IP. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:11:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: unnecessary
read the blog
If you Reply to this reply to your reply to his reply, You agree to transfer ownership of your first born to me. I need a mining slave.
^^ There is a point in there somewhere if your intuitive enough to realize it. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.20 01:21:00 -
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Sakaane Eionell wrote:
Regardless, there are tons of artists around the world who make their living creating art based on someone else's IP. They don't own that IP but they do own their artwork and they have the right to reproduce, sell, and distribute it. Any EVE player who creates an alliance or corporation logo--or any other piece of artwork--which partially uses CCP's IP should fall into this category once CCP writes an appropriate license. Any writer should likewise have a more appropriate license from CCP for their work. The blurb from the EULA quoted by the devblog doesn't cut it. The fansite copyright notice doesn't cut it either.
I was watching something once forget what, but some guy in the UK makes custom storm trooper suits and other star wars inspired suits, and he sells these suits. All without a license. And he is protected because they are considered Art. All his suits are hand made not mass produced.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:17:00 -
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I just came to a realization. By CCP's own logic and reasoning they must be the new proud owners of Twitch.tv, seeing as the twitch logo and name is now packaged within the client. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.26 23:39:00 -
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Goat Scrotus wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:I just came to a realization. By CCP's own logic and reasoning they must be the new proud owners of Twitch.tv, seeing as the twitch logo and name is now packaged within the client. As MailDeadDrop pointed out up-thread (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4257075#post4257075) they actually acknowledge the correct ownership of things owned by organizations with their own legal teams. Now, since Lawyerswarm is probably larger than the legal teams of many software companies (CCP included)...
I was being sarcastic, and twitch isn't on that list. |
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